Soul Survivor and Those Who Cannot Remember the Past

On 19th September, New Wine announced[i] they would be reviewing their relationship with Mike Pilavachi and Soul Survivor after releasing a rather ill-advised statement distancing themselves from the substantiated allegations that Mike Pilavachi abused his power and massaged young male interns in his bedroom.[ii]  Few Christian organisations have been honest or transparent about their relationship with Mike Pilavachi since the allegations first became public.  While a few have publicly lauded Mike Pilavachi (namely JJohn and Terry Virgo and some others on Pilavachi’s now deleted Facebook post about avoiding a “trial by media”),[iii]few have been willing to examine their culpability in the midst of what has emerged at Soul Survivor.

As a result of all this, I thought it would be prudent to examine some the many and varied links between Mike Pilavachi and various key organisations and individuals over the last forty years.  Given what is known about the harm Mike Pilavachi caused, I have been cautious to avoid focussing too much on those who were mentored by him, to avoid causing further distress.  The familiar meme of Homer Simpson backing away slowly into a bush has come to mind repeatedly as I have watched the silence amongst UK Charismatic Christian leaders.

This blog is written as an attempt to stop more people hiding in that bush by rewriting their past relationship with Mike Pilavachi and Soul Survivor. All that remains to be said before getting into the past is a big thank you to all those who have been in touch to share parts of the story that has been told her.

Let’s start at the very beginning (well in the 1960s)

John Wimber became a Christian in the US in 1963 while he was working as a musician and music manager for the Righteous Brothers.  After enrolling in college, he majored in Biblical and although he was ordained as a Quaker minister, he soon left this behind when the Quakers sought to limit his charismatic ministry.  In 1974, he began working with Fuller Theological Seminary and by 1977, the house church Wimber had grown in Anaheim (a town about 30 minute’s drive from both Los Angeles and Fuller where he worked) eventually became named Vineyard Christian Fellowship as it joined the Vineyard network which had been founded by Kenn Gulliksen.  In the UK, Anglican priest David Watson planted St Michael le Belfrey church in York in 1973 with his wife Anne.[iv]  He held a visiting teaching role at Fuller Seminary where he met John Wimber.  In 1980, David Watson was one of the first people to bring John Wimber to the UK.[v]

After having served as the Anglican bishop for Chile, Bolivia and Peru, Rev David Pytches and his wife Mary, moved back to the UK and David became vicar of St Andrews, Chorleywood (a small town, an hour’s drive west of London). Four years into this role, in 1981, they invited John Wimber to visit the church.[vi]  This visit had a profound impact on the church as did many of John Wimber’s and his team’s visits to churches across the UK.  For instance, the following year, 1982, Wimber visited Holy Trinity Brompton (HTB) under Sandy Millar’s leadership after an introduction from David Watson, which had a huge impact on the way HTB developed.[vii]

Just before this, John Mumford was working as a curate in the West Country and along with his wife Eleanor, they experienced God moving in a charismatic way.[viii]  In 1982, John Mumford was in the US at the invitation of David Watson, and after hearing from Watson about Wimber’s ministry, John Mumford uncharacteristically showed up unannounced in Anaheim and experienced the Vineyard church and Wimber for himself; soon after he became part of the Vineyard staff team in Anaheim.[ix]  By 1984, UK New Frontiers founder Terry Virgo had also connected with John Wimber, visiting him in Anaheim after being introduced by a mutual friend Geoff Shearn who worked at Kingsway music.[x]

Wimber visited St Andrews many times,[xi] with the church holding regular residential leaders’ gatherings for Christian ministers from across the UK.  Another St Andrews member, Barry Kissell led “faith sharing teams” that visited churches across the UK, teaching others how to do charismatic ministry.  Kissell went on to also have a leadership role in St Marys, Marylebone.  Although by this point David Watson had sadly died, John Wimber and his team began leading large UK charismatic conferences from 1984 onwards, organised by David Pytches.  These included events in Westminster Central Hall, Sheffield, Harrogate, Brighton and Wembley (the Brighton events were in partnership with New Frontiers).[xii] Through these events, John and Eleanor Mumford felt called to leave Anglican ministry and established Europe’s and the UK’s first Vineyard church plant in 1987, in Putney (South West London).  It was at this time that David Pytches’ daughter, Debby, began working as an intern at Anaheim Vineyard with John Wright (Debby and her husband John, would go on to take over UK Vineyard leadership from the Mumfords in 2015).  In this same year, 1987, an almost thirty-year-old Mike Pilavachi was now leading the youth work at St Andrews with 13-year-old Matt Redman in his youth group.[xiii]  

At the other end of England, around this time, in 1988, a young Andy Hawthorne and his brother Simon organised a large event, Message’88 in Manchester.  With 300 events run in advance of the event itself, thousands of young people heard about Jesus.  By the following year, this one off event had become a mission to take the Message to Schools, with a group of Christians setting up a band, the World Wide Message Tribe to do this work.  

The New Wine Years

Back in the south of England, a vision for a national gathering of Christians emerged out of the conferences John Wimber was leading, with Wimber himself donating £3000 as a “seed gift” to get this endeavour started.[xiv]  In 1989, the first New Wine event was held at the Royal Bath and West Showground with nearly 2,500 participants.[xv]  Mike Pilavachi headed up the youth work for the first and subsequent events.[xvi] By 1991 he had been joined in leading the youth work by Steve Chalke and David Westlake.  During this time, youth sessions included worship from Matt Redman and Cutting Edge, a music project set up by Martin Smith and Tim Jupp for running youth outreach events in West Sussex.  Cutting Edge went on to become much more famously known as the band Delirious?[xvii]

Within a couple of years of New Wine, the vision for a separate youth festival had emerged, with Barry Kissell telling Mike Pilavachi that he had “outgrown” the youth ministry at St Andrews.[xviii]   The first Soul Survivor festival was held in 1993 with the youth team from New Wine and JJohn (now a Canon) providing teaching.  There were around 2000 participants.  Soon after this, Mike Pilavachi and a team from St Andrews Chorleywood planted Soul Survivor Watford, a church primarily focussed on young people.  Soul Survivor festival was formally run under New Wine’s governance until 1999,[xix] when the limited company, Soul Survivor, was founded with six directors; David Westlake, Joyce Wills, John Price, Peter Maskrey, David Pytches and Graham Cray.[xx]  

While slightly off topic, given that JJohn was the main Bible teacher at Soul Survivor, JJohn was made a Lay Canon in 2003 by Coventry Cathedral, but has never been ordained in the Church of England. His Canon status was bolstered sometime after 2009, when David Carr, long-time leader of the Renewal Christian Centre in Solihull (near Birmingham),  established himself as Bishop Abbott of the Order of St Leonard and Bishop of Wroxhall Abbey, after convincing Wroxall Abbey Hotel, which is a “a luxurious and historic 72-bedroom hotel” and wedding venue, to let him.[xxii]  At some point since then, JJohn has been ordained as a Canon Missioner in the Order of St Leonard.[xxiii]

Another off topic incidental. As mentioned in THIS post, Mark Bailey was removed both from New Wine leadership and ordained ministry in the Church of England due to his behaviour being dishonouring of God. After a brief employment at Hope For Justice (I’ve extensively documented on this blog how their co-founder Ben Cooley was sacked for gross misconduct), Mark Bailey now leads Encounter Vineyard church in Cheltenham. Seems the shared rootedness in John Wimber does not lead Vineyard to avoid employing men sacked by New Wine.

I digress.  

Soul Survivor projects

Many projects either emerged from or were connected to the Soul Survivor festivals. 

Soul Action (Tearfund)

David Westlake began to work at Tearfund as Youth Director in 1996, [xxiv] and from there a strong partnership was built between Tearfund and Soul Survivor, through Soul Action which was incorporated as a company in 1994.[xxv]  Money raised at Soul Survivor festivals would be donated to Tearfund projects, Tearfund employees would deliver seminars on justice at Soul Survivor, and much of Soul Survivor’s commitment to justice was outworked through Tearfund projects and the ability for young people to support these projects with money and volunteering efforts. Some Soul61 young people and those who previously worked at Soul Survivor also went onto be employed by Teafund within David Westlake’s team.

Survivor Records (Kingsway Music/David C Cook)

Given the priority given to worship music at New Wine and then Soul Survivor, Survivor Records was established in 1997 by Les Moir as a subsidiary of Kingsway Music (whose parent company is David C Cook),[xxvi] to bring the new worship artists at these festivals to a new audience.  Artists represented by them included: Matt Redman, Tim Hughes, Vicky Beeching, Brenton Brown, Beth Croft, Phatfish, LZ7, YFriday and others.  It was also David C Cook who published a number of projects co-authored by Mike Pilavachi and Andy Croft, including Everyday Supernatural (2014), Lifelines (2018), and Storylines DVD and Small Group Guide (2019).  

Soul Survivor Mini Mag

From 1995, the Soul Survivor Magazine was published every other month,[xxvii] in association with Tearfund, the magazine was published by New Wine and edited by Mike Pilavachi.  On occasion David Westlake and Liz Biddulph were Managing Editors on occasions, with both of these individuals and David and Jenny Rosser also acting as Consultants on some magazine issues.  Regular contributors to the magazine included Craig Borlase (who was also an occasional editor), Graham Cray and his daughter Catherine, Andy Hawthorne, JJohn, Mary Pytches, Beth and Matt Redman, Dawn Reynolds, David Westlake, and Steve Chalke. 

Hope Together (Youth for Christ and The Message Trust)

Roy Crowne began as Director of Youth for Christ in 1998.  He built a strong friendship with Mike Pilavachi and Andy Hawthorne at the Message Trust.  He sought to work with them both in collaboration, rather than competition, to enable more young people across the UK to come to know Jesus.  Roy Crowne explains that, “HOPE Together grew out of the friendship and trust that had grown between we three guys.”[xxviii]  Until 2018, both Mike Pilavachi and Andy Hawthorne were Directors of Hope (alongside Rachel Jordan and Laurence Singlehurst), with Roy Crowne as Executive Director.[xxix]  In the year 2000, the Message partnered with Soul Survivor to run Message 2000, an event across Manchester in which over 5000 young people participated.  This was followed up in 2004 with Soul in the City in London and Soul In The City Durban in 2009.  After Roy Crowne left Youth for Christ in 2010 to become Executive Director of Hope, Gav Calver (now CEO of the Evangelical Alliance) took over as CEO at Youth for Christ.[xxx] While we’re talking about the Evangelical Alliance, Steve Clifford (Gav Calver’s predecessor at Evangelical Alliance CEO) was the Soul Survivor leadership team Chair, the Chair of Hope ’08, and the Chair of Soul in the City (according to his LinkedIn).

Incidentally, David Westlake founded the Cinnamon Network with Matt Bird (they’ve recently rebranded as NAYBA) and Matt Bird describes himself as a “strategic adviser” to Soul In The City and Hope.[xxxi]  Another incidental is that Laurence Singlehurst’s daughter, Keira Phyo, previously worked for Tearfund alongside David Westlake and now works for Lambeth Palace.  Another link between Soul Survivor and Lambeth Palace is David Saunderson.  Saunderson was a Director of the Lambeth Trust from 2012 until July 2023,[xxxii] and was also a Director of Soul61 from 2013 until 31st March 2023,[xxxiii] two days before the Church of England and Soul Survivor issued statements about Mike Pilavachi stepping down.  The Lambeth Trust supports the work and mission of present and former Archbishops of Canterbury.  In 2020, Archbishop Justin Welby awarded Mike Pilavachi the Alphege Award for Evangelism and Witness.

LIV Village

While it is not entirely clear how Mike Pilavachi became involved with Tich and Joan Smith, they are the co-founders of LIV Village,[xxxiv] a set of projects in various places across South Africa which provide homes, love and faith to orphans and other vulnerable children and young people.  The UK branch of the charity exists to support their work.  David Westlake was a founding trustee of the charity and Mike Pilavachi resigning as a trustee only after allegations emerged in April 2023.[xxxv]  The LIV Village choir would perform at Soul Survivor festivals and Mike Pilavachi, his interns and others connected to Soul Survivor would visit their projects in South Africa.

Church of England ordinations

Each year Soul Survivor ran seminars to encourage participants to discern whether they were called to ordination in the Church of England.  From this, many younger, charismatic people ordained in the church of England discovered their calling, at least in part, due to Soul Survivor.[xxxvi]  This led Nicky Gumbel to state that almost every one of his 25 clergy at HTB testified that Mike Pilavachi was, “the main reason, humanly speaking, that they had been ordained.”[xxxvii]

Soul Edge Ministries

This is a leadership training resource with gap year locations in Canada and New Zealand and has run since 2007/08ish.[xxxviii]  It was set up by two of Mike Pilavachi’s interns and he supported the project and subsequently platformed the gap year at Soul Survivor festivals.  Until very recently, a lot of the publicity for the gap year came from their connection to Soul Survivor and Mike Pilavachi.  It is understood than most of their students will have signed up through seeing the stand at Soul Survivor festivals.

Co-authored books

The foreword of Mike Pilavachi’s book Soul Survivor (2004) was written by Nicky Gumbel, who until recently was the leader of HTB (a church deeply infused by John Wimber’s theology).[xxxix]  As an aside, long-time HTB staff member and friend of Nicky Gumbel, Mark Elsdon-Dew has apparently been supporting Mike Pilavachi since the allegations emerged in April.  I mean I guess that’s what one would do for one’s friend’s co-author…

Mike has also co-authored books with Craig Borlase (Live the Life, 2006. Afterlife, 2000. My First Trousers, 1999. For the Audience of One, 1999. Weeping Before An Empty Tomb, 2000. Life, Death and Everything In-Between, 2001).  Craig has also co-authored a book with Martin Smith of Delirious.  Liza Hoeksma is another of Mike Pilavachi’s co-authors (When Necessary Use Words, 2007. Soul Food for Youth Workers, 2009.)  Liza has also co-authored two books with Patrick Regan and other books with Ali Martin, and with Tich and Joan Smith.  The NIV Soul Survivor Journalling Bible was developed by Ali Martin, Andy Croft, Mike Pilavachi and team.[xl]

As Soul Survivor festival and church grew, both in influence and numbers, Mike Pilavachi became involved in various projects and initiatives.  From 1998 – 2000 he was a trustee of the Evangelical Alliance,[xli]  and was instrumental in the setting up of student organisation Fusion (which had a presence at all subsequent Soul Survivor festivals and ran their student content).[xlii] Mike Pilavachi was a Trustee for XLP in London (found by Patrick Regan) from 2007 – 2017, with XLP a regular presence at Soul Survivor.  In 2018 he joined the Council of Reference for Christ Church London[xliii] and in 2011 – 2012 trained for Anglican ordination in the HTB affiliated St Mellitus college.  Questions are now being raised as to if/how Pilavachi was fast tracked through the ordination process.

Other connections

Alongside sitting on various boards and lending his influence to different projects and initiatives, Mike Pilavachi was a regular contributor to many different events and training programmes.  These include:

  • Spring Harvest (speaker from 1990 onwards).
  • Imagine Festival, Inverurie (this Scottish festival was eventually taken over by Soul Survivor).
  • HTB Youth Alpha video series.
  • New Frontiers (leadership training and conferences).
  • Holy Trinity Church, Cambridge (annual speaker and friend of the church).
  • Kingsgate Community Church, Peterborough (speaker at the European Learning Community events, 2013 onwards).
  • Ichthus Revive (most recently 2022).
  • St Pauls, Hammersmith.
  • Hillsong Australia (spoke at their annual conference the same year as Michael Gugliemucci was sharing his made-up testimony).[xliv]
  • Church of Ireland (spoke at their youth festival, Summer Madness).
  • St John’s College, Nottingham (brought teams to lead chapel, worship and preach and was Honourary President).
  • Worship Central (regular speaker).
  • UCCF (spoke at their annual training event).
  • Trinity College, Bristol (lectured for them).
  • Care for the Family (contributed to their Getting Your Kids Through Church resource).[xlv]
  • Open Doors (contributed to their youth content).
  • YWAM (Soul Survivor started a church in YWAM’s Harpenden base, Holmsted Manor).
  • Scripture Union (partnered with Soul Survivor for the festival each year.[xlvi]
  • Woodlands Church, Bristol (hosted Naturally Supernatural events in 2022 and 2023).[xlvii]
  • Living Out (Mike endorsed their work).[xlviii]
  • St Peters High School, Gloucester (Spoke at a Friday night chaplaincy evening called Ignite – 2017).
  • Anaheim Vineyard (speaker, 2015/16).
  • Croydon Vineyard (pastors Tom and Lesley Thompson were at Soul Survivor Watford and Mike Pilavachi mentored Tom).
  • Trent Vineyard – Debby and John Wright’s church (preached numerous times at conferences and as a visiting speaker over many years and opened the church’s youth centre).
  • Causeway Coast Vineyard (speaker at events).
  • US – National Pastors Convention (2003 – 2005)
  • US – National Youth Workers Convention (2003 – 2005)
  • First Presbyterian Church of Honolulu (Speaking at the Hawaiian Islands Ministry (HIM) Conference). 
  • South West Youth Ministries (Mike Pilavachi was their Patron and spoke at many of the conference over the years).

Since Soul Survivor ended in 2019, there are three other significant connections that are worth mentioning.  As Mike Pilavachi closed down Soul Survivor, he did so having approached a few different organisations to pass on the “Christian youth festival” baton.  These were:

  • Youthscape, who used the baton (which included a significant donation from Soul Survivor) to set up their Satellites festival.
  • Vineyard, who used the baton with their Dream The Impossible (DTI) festival (which had previously taken place in May) by moving it to the summer.[xlix]
  • Elim’s Limitless festival.[l]

What now?

It struck me as I’ve been pulling all these threads together that we are sixty years on from when John Wimber became a Christian and God was revealed in fresh and exciting ways to Christians in the US and UK.  In tracing where Soul Survivor and Mike Pilavachi came from, I have seen the extraordinary ways God moved, ushering in new worship styles and breathing new life into the UK Church.  But I was struck by how the Spirit’s move was no protection from power abuse or misuse within those communities.


Vineyard Anaheim reckons with the damage wreaked by Alan Scott and others.  Hillsong clings on, even as the Houston’s stranglehold crushes out the Spirit.  Soul Survivor continues to establish just how badly their systems failed.  Many other unknown cases of abuse and mistreatment at the hands of Christian leaders rumble on, as those who have been trampled drag themselves onward, their faith only a smouldering wick, for some faith has been totally blown out.  As God moved through John Wimber and others, they saw the signs of the times.  They understood that God was calling them to a new expression of faithfulness; complete with electric guitars, wacky experiences and a sold-out love for Jesus.  They saw the way that other forms of faith had been corrupted or stripped of power and they sought, with great enthusiasm to follow where Jesus was leading.

Right now, we are in a reckoning.   God is shining a light on that which has remained in the darkness.  Those with the power (some of whom have been mentioned by name in this blog) are so settled in their places, so comfortable in their power, that they fail to see God moving this time round.  When John Wimber visited the UK back in the eighties, these people were young and idealistic, still relatively powerless in the grand scheme of things.  But now they are the elder statesmen of Christian culture.  They tell their stories of the Spirit moving and they convince themselves that this wave of abuse disclosures will disintegrate into nothingness.  Surely this generation is simply too fragile?  Of course Mike Pilavachi could be a bit difficult, but isn’t that always the way with gifted men?  Soon everything will calm down and we can get back to the way we built things to be? 

But they’ve forgotten who invited them to the party.  The Holy Spirit moved and they found themselves in the flow of what God was doing.  They build their big ships to travel on those waters more easily, and now they think their ships are where the Spirit is at.  They think their ships are what matter.  But as those who landed in Malta all of those years ago discovered, sometimes the ship will be smashed to pieces.[li]

For the sake of those most wounded I hope those with power, who felt that move of the Spirit all those years ago, will wake up to what that same Spirit is saying to us right now.  But regardless of whether they get onboard, I have every confidence that the same Spirit which changed the face of UK Christianity decades ago, will succeed in moving us to where we need to be.  Even if some ships have to be smashed in the process.

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So far, of those identified above as having a relationship with Mike Pilavachi,these organisations have offered transparent and helpful responses:

  • Youthscape made a statement HERE.
  • Croydon Vineyard wrote an article HERE.
  • South West London Vineyard published THIS on Spiritual Abuse and included acknoweldgement of their relationship with Mike Pilavachi in THIS September 2023 sermon (transcription of some of it HERE).

This blog was edited on 25th September 2023 as it had incorrectly stated that JJohn had never been made a Canon in the Church of England, when he is a Lay Canon.


[i] https://archive.ph/AJFKS

[ii] https://twitter.com/newwineengland/status/1702004212429992206?s=46

[iii] https://archive.ph/2023.07.17-212202/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/17/backlash-church-leaders-praise-soul-survivor-mike-pilavachi/

[iv] https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/14028354.york-church-celebrates-50th-anniversary-of-famous-vicars-arrival/

[v] https://yournameislikehoney.com/2021/11/12/part-ten-when-wimber-met-htb-part-1-of-2/

[vi] https://web.archive.org/web/20220116105241/https://www.vineyardchurches.org.uk/vineyard-vaults/real-not-religious/

[vii] https://www.vineyardchurches.org.uk/resources/remembering-john-wimber/

[viii] https://vineyardusa.org/library/the-global-vineyard-meet-john-mumford/

[ix] https://vineyardusa.org/library/the-global-vineyard-meet-john-mumford/

[x] http://www.nigelring.org/40-years-on-3-conferences-in-the-80s/

[xi] https://newwine.medium.com/from-power-house-to-kitchen-to-showground-d8ff1ec2a57d,https://yournameislikehoney.com/2021/11/12/part-ten-when-wimber-met-htb-part-1-of-2/

[xii] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5nAXCUA_Y

[xiii] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/13/christian-singer-matt-redman-healing-soul-survivor/

[xiv] https://newwine.medium.com/from-power-house-to-kitchen-to-showground-d8ff1ec2a57d

[xv]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wine#:~:text=The%20first%20New%20Wine%20Christian,and%20attracted%20nearly%202%2C500%20people.

[xvi] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5nAXCUA_Y (18:01)

[xvii]https://www.crossrhythms.co.uk/articles/music/Les_Moir_Survivor_Records_Visionary__And_A_Pretty_Funky_Bass_Player/25891/p1/

[xviii] https://archive.ph/w1ls0

[xix] https://x.com/needs_light/status/1702351254012272976?s=20

[xx] HERE

[xxi] http://hearthofmopsus.blogspot.com/2018/03/re-emergence.html

[xxii] https://wahotel.co.uk

[xxiii] http://www.orderofstleonard.org/team/

[xxiv] https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-westlake-b5435811/

[xxv] https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/02917078/filing-history?page=4

[xxvi]https://www.crossrhythms.co.uk/articles/music/Les_Moir_Survivor_Records_Visionary__And_A_Pretty_Funky_Bass_Player/25891/p1/

[xxvii] https://issuu.com/soulsurvivoruk/2

[xxviii] https://www.revelationtrust.org/relationships-rule/

[xxix] HERE

[xxx] https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/gavin-calver-leaves-yfc-for-ea

[xxxi] https://www.matt-bird.com

[xxxii] https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/07884895/officers

[xxxiii] https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/07705162/filing-history?page=2

[xxxiv] https://www.liv-village.com/our-story/

[xxxv] https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search?p_p_id=uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet&p_p_lifecycle=2&p_p_state=maximized&p_p_mode=view&p_p_resource_id=%2Faccounts-resource&p_p_cacheability=cacheLevelPage&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_objectiveId=A12261853&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_mvcRenderCommandName=%2Faccounts-and-annual-returns&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_organisationNumber=5009582

[xxxvi] https://livingchurch.org/2019/09/14/soul-survivor-festival-ends-26-year-run-in-church-of-england/

[xxxvii] https://x.com/God_loves_women/status/1658531348347342848?s=20

[xxxviii] https://www.souledge.org/team

[xxxix] https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334841524744

[xl] https://www.amazon.co.uk/NIV-Soul-Survivor-Journalling-Bible/dp/1473696739

[xli] https://www.eauk.org

[xlii] https://www.fusionmovement.org

[xliii] https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search?p_p_id=uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet&p_p_lifecycle=2&p_p_state=maximized&p_p_mode=view&p_p_resource_id=%2Faccounts-resource&p_p_cacheability=cacheLevelPage&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_fileName=0001111950_AC_20180731_E_C.pdf&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_objectiveId=A9232784&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_mvcRenderCommandName=%2Faccounts-and-annual-returns&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_organisationNumber=4019022

[xliv] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9422751/Aussie-Hillsong-pastor-faked-having-cancer-hide-porn-habit-starts-charity-homeless.html

[xlv] https://www.eauk.org/great-commission/resources/getting-your-kids-through-church

[xlvi] https://www.lendrickmuir.org.uk/events/creperie-soul-survivor/

[xlvii] https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=h7a0yIbs0XI

[xlviii] https://twitter.com/mattdrapps/status/1700860993633415381?s=46

[xlix] https://dreamingtheimpossible.org

[l] https://www.elim.org.uk/Groups/310950/LIMITLESS.aspx

[li] Acts 26 – 28.

Previous blogs:

  1. The Problem with Statements; Mike Pilavachi, Soul Survivor, and the importance of independence
  2. Firm Foundations: on statements, silencing and Soul Survivor
  3. Holy Saturday and Soul Survivor
  4. Guest Blog: Soul Survivor’s Elephant Navigating Service
  5. A Suggested Statement about Soul Survivor
  6. Silence, Soul Survivor and pushing things under the rug
  7. Soul Survivor and anything that needs to come into the light
  8. Guest Post: An Open Letter to Evangelical Leaders in the UK
  9. Soul Survivor and Those Who Are Late to the Conversation
  10. Soul Survivor and those who are late to the conversation
  11. The Soul Survivor Situation – A Timeline
  12. Guest Blog: Dear Pete Greig
  13. We are all implicated subjects
  14. Trampling on the Little Ones
  15. Woe to you, religious leaders
  16. Guest Post: New Frontiers and Mike Pilavachi

18 thoughts on “Soul Survivor and Those Who Cannot Remember the Past

  1. Thanks for the article and research. There’s a typo in that it is David Watson not John Watson in the ‘at the beginning section’, but there’s a lot that you are touching on that resonates and has been used in the way you describe in the last section… I think we are in a ‘let justice flow like rivers’ season. I’ve tried to capture some of that here https://yournameislikehoney.com/category/inspiration/letters-to-the-charismatic-church/ thank you for caring and writing.

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    • Thanks Rich! I’ve now edited the blog with David’s correct name. And thank you for your writing on the history of this movement. Your blog is included in the endnotes on this post.

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  2. Beverley Murrill says:

    Your capacity for research is fantastic and thanks for the way you’ve brought all this together. I resonate with your thoughts that those who were young and powerless are now the elder statesmen. It’s tough to see idealism and enthusiasm for the purposes of God descend into comfortableness and status. So many leaders are not like that, but we see more clearly the ones who are and it’s tough to witness. God always raises a new generation; if only the new generation, as it gets older, did not become what it once replaced. It ought not be so.

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    • Hey Bev, thanks for much for your encouragement. Let’s hope that the two sides; complacency and power, are made visible to those who need to start doing things differently. Surely if they heard the Spirit then, they could hear the Spirit now? x

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  3. Beverley Murrill says:

    Hey there,

    Great article. You are so gifted with the capacity to research, distil the information and bring clarity to situations.

    xx

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  4. Jay says:

    Thank you. Just incredible the amount of silence and terrible statements compared with this incredibly thorough, and sourced, list! Just no excuses at this point really for them. All pretty heartbreaking, and especially given his impact on entire generations, it cannot be ignored by anyone even loosely associated.

    With what we know now, very interested to look further into his international links.

    (Also think Scripture Union here is Scripture Union Scotland? They are technically seperate. Not yet seen MP links to other Scripture Union movements, so thought it was worth adding!)

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  5. Sarah Freck says:

    Firstly, I wanted to say a really big thank you for all that you have done to keep us all informed about the MP situation and each new development. This is important work that must have taken a great deal of time!

    Outlining all MPs links with other people and organisations is also really important as we seek to understand how and why the abuse was allowed to continue for so long.

    I absolutely believe that the focus should be on the victims in all of this and there are many organisations including HTB that need to address their connections with MP however I have some slight concerns about what you have written here.

    “As an aside, long-time HTB staff member and friend of Nicky Gumbel, Mark Elsdon-Dew has apparently been supporting Mike Pilavachi since the allegations emerged in April. I mean I guess that’s what one would do for one’s friend’s co-author…”

    It seems rather snipey when actually, if MP is to actually seriously take on board his abuse and address those things within himself that have lead to his actions and attitudes, he will, realistically need support. Addressing our dark side is never easy for anyone. I hope and pray that the nature of the support that Mark gives will facilitate this.

    The work you are doing is absolutely essential in calling organisations to account and focus on support for the victims is absolutely the top priority and sadly is often lacking.

    However, I don’t feel it is wrong for MP to also have someone alongside him in all of this if it will (hopefully) help him come to a full understanding of what he has done and a full repentance.

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    • Hi Sarah, thank you so much for your comment. I would certainly have much more confidence that HTB staff were providing appropriate support to Mike Pilavachi if as an organisation (and the influential individuals involved) had chosen to offer strong statements that provided transparency about their relationship with Mike Pilavachi & detailed the efforts they were making to examine where their own systems had failed in providing appropriate accountability to him over the years when concerns were raised with them and others. As you say, let us pray that whoever is spending time with Mike Pilavachi is offering wise and Spirit filled guidance to him.

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      • I totally agree that HTB should respond with a robust statement that shows their integrity and commitment to truth and honesty and that it is beyond disappointing that they have not yet done so.

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  6. Peter Telford says:

    Thank you for such a powerful analysis, which I’m sure is from God. It’s forensic, yet IMHO prophetic, with passion for the Holy Spirit’s work and love for the people you mentioned.

    And I like the nod to Santayana.

    My own Christian life spans two-thirds of the “third wave of the Spirit”, back to when it was still in little boats, not big ships. Thank God that he can still use the big ships, but I agree they provide corners to hide in, and if the crew isn’t listening to the Captain about that, maybe he’ll head for the rocks.

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  7. Dave says:

    This is a truly excellent piece of research, Natalie.

    Let me make an observation. As you’ve indicated, Pilavachi was part of the charismatic movement, and he primarily associated with other charismatics and pentecostals. In fact, his associations were at the highest levels of those groupings. He was a leader with an international profile, and he enjoyed the long-term friendship of many other prominent leaders.

    And that raises a very important question. Given the beliefs of the charismatic movement, why didn’t any of those other leaders have any sort of word of knowledge, prophetic insight, or supernatural revelation that Pilavachi had a dark side? These leaders are proclaimed as role models of “Spirit-filled Christianity”, and yet they were unable to warn the church that an abuser was conducting a reign of terror that lasted for 30+ years. The list of Pilavachi’s associates reads like a who’s who of charismatics, and yet they were all silent. Something is very wrong.

    I am going to suggest two possibilities. Firstly, Pilavachi’s associates did know but stayed silent. That means they are corrupt and unfit for ministry. Secondly, Pilavachi’s associates did not know. Their supposed miraculous gifts did not give them the ability to discern what Pilavachi was up to. In which case, the claims of the charismatic and pentecostal movements look very dubious indeed.

    I think the first option is unlikely, because Pilavachi associated with numerous charismatics from a variety of backgrounds. It would only have taken one to go public, and we wouldn’t be discussing this in 2023. And I would have thought that, if charismatic beliefs are true, it would be a very high priority for God to give knowledge of Pilavachi to someone with the integrity to speak out.

    So I am going for the second option. People like David Pytches, Terry Virgo, Nicky Gumbel, J John, and many others, need to realise that their charismatic movement does not do what it says on the tin. A major rethink is needed.

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  8. David says:

    I have two other questions…

    Does anyone know anything about Mike Pilavachi’s early life? It’s public that he was born in 1958, was originally an accountant, but by 1989 he was the youth worker at St Andrew’s Chorleywood. But that’s about it. These first 31 years are currently a mystery.

    And what about his sexuality? It strikes me that straddling naked athletic young men on a bed and massaging them with oil is not something that a straight person would do. And Pilavachi is obviously a bachelor. So the evidence points towards him being homosexual. But I think I’ve only seen one comment about this. Does anyone know any more?

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  9. Rhona Knight says:

    Thanks for this. Really helpful history. Thanks too for echoing the ship analogy. Have been feeling for a while the time of cruise-liners has had its day and the time for fishing boats has begun. For many, faith has been in the cruise liner – the organisational church has been seen as a reflection of the character of God and leaders have been put on pedestals – which is bad for them and for the people they serve and for the world at large. Then when leaders behave badly there is disbelief that ‘the church’ could behave that way – and the dissonance that results requires some form of change in understanding to incorporate the experience. The cruise liner is seen for what it is – a man made organisation. Struck me reading Isaiah again this week of our joint responsibility in all of this as the people of God and the need to repent, return and live. Typo – you have said the editing date was 25th September 2013 – might be best to change.

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  10. Jonathan Holbrook says:

    As someone largely outside the charismatic movement (but happy to participate in it when our paths cross), I offer the following.

    We must never be tempted into quietly crowing over the downfall of church leaders (not that I believe any of the comments I’ve read do), as we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. We should rightly pray for their repentance as well as pray for those who have suffered at their hands, for their healing and their ability to forgive.

    Thankfully, God’s plans are not derailed by our misdemeanours (read the whole OT outline of His dealings with Israel!). The Lord has used, and is still using, the charismatic movement powerfully in His plans. It is a genuine (though not the only) expression of His Spirit in the UK Church. So please continue faithfully in all that God calls you to do, as we in the non-charismatic parts of His church should do also; and God in His grace will take our imperfect efforts and work them out into the extension of His Kingdom as preparation for the return of the King.

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